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LA Times Reports On Birth Certificate And Supreme Court

Posted in politics by roving on January 4, 2009

LA Times has the story about the supreme court and Obama’s birth certificate.  Okay, its not front page news and only in the blog section but we will take what we can.

“Generally, the issues focus on professed doubts that the 47-year-old Democrat wasn’t really born in Hawaii, despite his birth certificate from the state, and/or that the fact his father was a Kenyan and a British subject makes Obama a dual citizen — meaning he is not a “native born” American, as required by the Constitution. Under U.S. law, people born in the U.S. are citizens.”

Why does the news media always make it sound like the birth certificate in Hawaii is the real thing? There has never been proof the certificate says he was born in Hawaii.

“One sign a rejection is likely is the Court apparently did not feel the issue important enough to ask the other side for comment.

Opponents of Obama still plan protests at the court today and a Washington news conference.

Another reason, as noted by The Times’ David Savage, is that: “The justices also review rulings made by lower courts, usually when there is a disagreement about the law. In [these Obama] cases, lower courts dismissed the lawsuits without handing down major rulings.” Thus, there is no legal ruling to be overturned by the Supreme Court.”

I hope the LA Times is wrong wrong wrong.

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  1. Ms. Cris Ericson said, on January 4, 2009 at 1:57 am

    Hi!
    There is a “Certification of Live Birth” going around the internet, they all look about the same, here is one:

    and in the lower right hand corner it shows:

    [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]

    Please go to http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov

    and on the right click on

    Hawaii Revised Statutes

    and enter search terms
    338
    and scroll all the way to the bottom and click
    on the link and you’ll get a whole list of
    section 338s

    Now, read HRS 338-13(b)

    and HRS 338-19

    because these are listed on the lower right hand
    corner of the alleged Barack Obama
    Certification of Live Birth.

    HRS 338-13(b)
    Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department, shall be considered for all purposed the same as the original, subject to
    the requirements of
    338-16, 338-17, 338-18

    So, now please read 338-16, 338-17, 338-18

    HRS 338-16
    (a) Birth certificates registered one year or more after the date of birth, and certificates which have been altered after being filed with the department of health, shall contain the date of the late filing and the date of the alteration and be marked distinctly “late” or “altered”
    (e) “late” means one year or more after the date of birth

    Now, look at the online Certification of Birth, allegedly for Barack Obama,
    and it shows

    “OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) LASER”

    which may indicate that Barack Obama’s birth certificate was not applied for and not registered in Hawaii until one year or more after the date of his birth, and/or it was altered.

    It shows the Date of Birth August 4, 1961
    and the
    Date filed by Regisrar August 8, 1961.

    Clearly though, there was possibly some kind
    of alteration, or maybe he never have gotten a Hawaii certification of birth prior to (Rev. 11/01),
    or maybe it was Revised then, and the word
    Revised is used instead of “altered”.

    Maybe he was born in Kenya and then maybe his
    mother flew to Hawaii and reported the birth four days later on Aug. 8, 1961.

    This document leaves reasonable doubt in the minds of Voters that he may not be a natural born citizen.

    HRS 338-17 Late or altered certificate as evidence.
    The probative value of a “late” or “altered” certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.

    If this Certification of Live Birth is floating around the internet because Barack Obama wants Voters to rely on it to believe he is qualified as a natural born citizen, then there should be
    a judicial determination of probative value
    before he is allowed to be sworn into Office on January 20, 2009.

    HRS 338-18 (a) it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records (b) unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest

    HRS 338-19 the department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age,
    usage, or otherwise are in such condition
    that they can no longer be…used… to certify to the correctness of such copies

    I hope that someone who is a Member of the Bar of the Supreme Court of the United States will file appropriate actions to ask the Court questions concerning Hawaii Revised Statutes and to determine if they are so vague and so overly broad as to unconstitutionally deprive voters of their constitutional right to be certain that the 44th President of the United States is a Natural Born Citizen,
    and not just some clever guy who knows how to file a request for a late birth certificate one year or more, or many more, after he was born, and then alter it, etc.

    HOCUS POCUS!
    SCOTUS POTUS!
    IS BARACK
    OBAMA
    BOGUS?

    http://crisericson.wordpress.com

    Cris Ericson http://crisericson.com

  2. Arlen Williams said, on January 4, 2009 at 5:49 am

    Let’s play, “What is wrong with this picture?”

    “Generally, the issues focus on professed doubts that the 47-year-old Democrat wasn’t really born in Hawaii, despite his birth certificate from the state, and/or that the fact his father was a Kenyan and a British subject makes Obama a dual citizen — meaning he is not a “nativeborn” American, as required by the Constitution. Under U.S. law, people born in the U.S. are citizens.”

    Anyone?

    Anyone?

  3. Ted said, on January 4, 2009 at 10:09 am

    “Native” born would merely mean born in the USA; or born in Hawaii.

    “Native born” is NOT the same thing as “natural born citizen” as required for Presidents under Article II of the Constitution.

    BHO could have been born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the Whitehouse (“native born”) yet still most definitely NOT a “natural born” citizen since his dad was Kenyan/British, not American, citizen when BHO was born — AS DECLARED ON OBAMA’S OWN CAMPAIGN WEBSITE!

  4. roving said, on January 4, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    no official has said Obama’s birth certificate reads that he was born in Hawaii. Only that they have it. Probably so when it eventually comes out that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii, they just covered their butts so they can say well, we never said he was BORN here.

    Its like Obama appeared out of nowhere. No friends from his past has come out and vouched for him.

  5. Elmo said, on January 15, 2009 at 11:49 am

    MORONS! I’m surrounded by idiots and morons and a variety of kooktards.

  6. Mr. Mac said, on January 23, 2009 at 8:34 am

    There is more evidence that he is a fraud than he is legit. Anyone that believes the media IS NOT BIASED, should be institutionalized. If this kind of information had be evident about Sarah Palin, the media hound dogs would have still been chasing her, even after she lost.

    His paternal grandmother who is still alive said he was born in Kenya, His older Brother and Sister who were there said he was born in Kenya, and his own nations Ambassador from Kenya said that his birth place in Kenya is well known and is already a sight seeing attraction.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he had his maternal grandmother killed, because she could expose him.

    B.O. is a FRAUD, being perpetrated on the USA by a lot of big money and a corrupt media.


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