Susan

Susan

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Sure there is. John Adams wouldn’t have wanted to exclude his American-born grandchildren, nor would anyone else. The framers had a positive reason to frame the thing more broadly, at least in Alexander Hamilton’s case. There is no reason to think the framers intended to exclude any American citizen born on American soil, like Obama. No writing makes any positive claim to such exclusion.

Plus, we’ve already had a president and a vice president in the same category. Precedents count.

Obama’s in. If we can keep the birthers sounding like complete idiots for two more years, it’s likely Obama will be in until 2017.

1. His father was a foreign national.
and
2. Obama was born with foreign citizenship (by way of his foreign national father). He even admitted as much on his fight the smears campaign web site.

Even assuming Obama was born in HI (with no proof to date), he was born a dual national.

There is no reasonable chance, that the framers intended the NBC requirement for POTUS to include dual nationals. There was no known definition for NBC, during the time of the writing of the Constitution, that said Dual National at Birth = Natural Born Citizen. It’s completely contrary to why they put the requirement in there (see Jay’s letter to Washington – written before the requirement first showed up in their draft of the Constitution).

It would mean that the King of England could marry a U.S. citizen woman, and if their child was born on U.S. soil, that child (an heir to the British crown, and British citizen at birth via the father) would be eligible to be our President and Commander in Chief.

Or, even more dangerous than that, a dictator like Dr. Ill from North Korean could do the same, marry a U.S. woman, she has the child here in the U.S. and viola! The child is POTUS eligible. With the dumbed down society that listens to what Hollywood and the State Run Media tell them to think…someone with that background could be voted in.

His being allowed to usurp the presidency, as a dual national at birth, sets a very dangerous precedent for the future security of this country.

Yes, the Constitution matters. If people don’t like the NBC requirement, then work to get the Constitution amended. The process can not be subverted…for anyone.

We have a tradition here in America, we’ll introduce you when you come. We believe an accused person is innocent until proven guilty, and we insist that in civil suits, the preponderance of the evidence hold sway.

There’s no serious case against Obama. The judge saw that.

Thanks in part to Mark (but much more to Apuzzo and Donofrio and Beniah and other bloggers) I’ve now read Joseph Story, and has colleague John Marshall on natural born citizenship. I’ve seen over a dozen references to the Vattel definition in court cases (even Obama put Vattel on his reading list for one of his Chicago law classes). Mark is demonstrating the fragility of freedom of speech. He once was required listening. I don’t like hearing him attack Beck, but Beck is exposing issues I know to be important. Mark is apparently jealous. Beck is doing broadcast journalism better than almost anyone right now. I happen to personally know one of those he exposed, and Beck did an invaluable service by telling others who he is. Mark’s legal foundation would seem to make him particularly dangerous to this bunch of crooks. I can only guess that Mark’s potential clients include congressional committees who are all complicit in their failure to question Obama’s eligibility, particularly since they checked McCain’s for years, and passed him anyway, knowing he remained challengable. Was the fix in? Mark may have been warned to stay away or Landmark Legal is finished. McCain’s defense team came from the major law firm on the Obama election committee, Kirkland and Ellis, and they are rolling in Obama business.

Another self-described Constitutional attorney is Jed Babbin of Human Events. He too dismisses anyone who would question the eligibility based upon anything, including Article II Sect. 1. Both Mark and Jed depend upon the beltway for a living. Jed was also in intelligence for some years. They plow the corruption but avoid the bigtime issues, and
this is a bigtime issue. If there is some issue dominating the provisions of the Constituion, let them explain it. I don’t believe there is. But their, Levin and Babbin’s avoidence of what should be the core issue in assessing the legitimacy of a commander in chief tells me they are likely corrupted. It reminds me of any version of a nightmarish movie called “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” where people cannot distinguish whether people they’ve know for years are still who they appear to be.

There is no doubt Obama fails the natural born citizenship requirement. None of these supposed conservative pundits willl entertain an argument with Joseph Story or Marshall or Jay or Waite or Madison or Bingham. They dare not engage if their only recourse is that the Constitution no longer pertains for some of its provisions. So they avoid the issue. They don’t dare explain why. Let it cost them their careers. For living among a community of those who value the Constituion and want to preserve and protect it, Levin and Babbin are more dangerous than those who honestly want to dispense with it.